Interviewing the Living and the Dead
By Davis Bitton
I can't vouch for the truth of this story,
so I shall suppress the name of the historian. As the story
goes, a prominent historian specializing in Renaissance-Reformation
(my own specialty in graduate school and as a university professor)
had a good reputation based on his studies of Erasmus and the
New Piety in the Low Countries.
When his wife died, the historian continued
his teaching and scholarship. He also seemed a bit unstable
and, according to his colleagues, sometimes seemed out of touch
with reality. When a spiritual medium held out the prospect
that he might be able to converse with his departed companion,
he couldn't resist and apparently experienced what he considered
a genuine meeting with her departed spirit.
Then a brilliant thought occurred to our
historian. Why not utilize this tool in historical research?
He asked if the medium could put him in touch with Martin Luther.
Never at a loss, the medium agreed to do so but asked for some
preparation time. I don't know whether there was a crash course
in Luther's biography or what, but when the scheduled séance
took place, our dear historian was satisfied that he was indeed
in touch with the famous Dr. Luther. Not surprisingly, when
the results of this interview were presented to his colleagues,
they shook their heads and refused to take it seriously.
I shall return to the idea of interviewing
the dead, but let's first talk about interviewing the living.
A few years ago I traveled to Blackfoot, Idaho, the place where
I grew up, with the intention of interviewing my father, Ronald
W. Bitton. He didn't talk much about himself, but I knew he
had experienced an interesting, varied life and wanted him to
open up and recall some of the specifics.
Unfortunately, we all became too busy doing
other things, and the interview didn't occur. Oh, well, I thought,
I'll just do it next time I come.
There was no next time. A long-distance
phone call told me that my dear father had died of a sudden
massive heart attack. I was glad he didn't have to suffer a
long, painful decline and death, but we in the family were grief-stricken.
Many times since then, I have thought to myself, "If only
I had managed to complete that oral history!"
Oral history came into its own after World
War II. Stenographers could take down testimony before, of course,
but it was the invention of the tape recorder that made possible
in the form we know it today. Allan Nevins, at Columbia University,
started a project on the New Deal and the Roosevelt presidency.
The techniques were refined and standardized, leading to a valuable
cache of information in tape recordings and typed transcriptions.
Subsequently similar programs were established at many universities
and historical societies.
I had my own introduction to oral history
when I was assistant Church historian. Professor Gary Shumway,
who had already gained experience in this approach and who had
directed an oral history project at California State University
at Fullerton, agreed to come to Salt Lake City and help us establish
a program that would meet professional standards.
Such an oral history program was established
and accumulated hundreds of interviews. General authorities,
stake and mission presidents, missionaries, Church members from
different countries — capture their experience while they
are still alive and alert and willing to talk. This was the
idea.
I couldn't resist participating as an interviewer
myself. Without mentioning all those I interviewed, I can say
that each session was a choice experience. I came to feel very
close to the interviewee (don't you love that word?) and felt
I was doing something of permanent value in seeing to it that
a record was being established.
An interview doesn't take the place of a
diary or personal memoirs, but it provides an added dimension.
For someone who didn't keep a diary or write a personal history,
an interview is invaluable.
One of my many cherished experiences along
this line was interviewing George S. Tanner. A retired institute
teacher from the University of Idaho, George was born and raised
in Arizona and retained an interest in the history of the Mormon
settlements there. He devoted his retirement years to gathering
material of historical value and depositing it in different
research archives.
With incredible stamina, he typed out many
diaries by Arizona pioneers. With J. Morris Richards, he later
produced a valuable book, Colonization on the Little Colorado:
The Joseph City Region. But the primary materials George accumulated
will be utilized for generations to come. What a privilege,
what an education, for me to follow George Tanner through his
life as he responded to questions about growing up, about the
seminary and institute program in the 1920s and 1930s, and his
discoveries about Arizona history.
Have you tried doing an oral history? Obtain
a tape recorder. Do some advance preparation so that you will
ask intelligent questions. Get some pointers from someone experienced
in this technique. Read an article or book on the subject, and
jot down ideas you can apply. If you are going to do it, you
might as well do it in a manner "worthy of all acceptation."
Back to the question of interviewing the
dead. This is not possible in the strict sense. But if the departed
family member or subject of interest left a diary or letters,
or if a newspaper wrote an article on him or her, it may be
possible to construct an imaginary interview that heightens
interest. Such an exercise should be clearly labeled for what
it is. Its value depends entirely on whether the "answers"
can be supported from reliable witnesses or documents. Much
better to hold such interviews while the person is still alive
and kicking, still able to respond to follow-up questions.
In point of fact, if I understand the scriptures,
the deceased has more important things to think about, including
an interview of sorts with One who already knows the answers.
By comparison, curiosity-seekers on earth — including
all historians — pale into insignificance.