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Beating the Bully Problem
by Joni Hilton

I had no idea how my advice about bullying would strike readers; I figured some would accuse me of over-reacting. Instead, an avalanche of support poured in-- and some superb advice for parents to keep on hand should your own kids ever confront a bully. Here’s one mom’s story of how bullies severely affect our children, and why it’s vital to have a zero tolerance policy, and take swift action:

My stomach is churning as I respond to your article on bullying. I am an educated, articulate, stay-at-home mother. I volunteered in all my children's classrooms, drove field trips, developed relationships with my children's teachers, and ensured that I kept a presence in their school lives, without being overbearing or obnoxious. When our youngest daughter was in 6th grade, we watched in great dismay, as she changed from a well adjusted, bright, confident and vivacious child into a frightened, angry and depressed shadow of herself. She even got to the point where she was talking about taking her own life.

The changes were gradual, but there was a definite "starting point" and it took us months to determine what was happening to her. While in the past she had always been an eager student, she began feeling "sick" every school morning. She was argumentative and angry, but when my husband and I tried to talk with her, she just said she "hated school and hated us for making her go there every day." We spoke with her teachers to try to understand what might be happening. They, too, were perplexed, until one afternoon, they witnessed two female students at the school who were "in our daughter's face." The teachers didn't see any physical bullying, but they intuitively knew that our daughter was somehow being intimidated as they watched the exchange from a distance. When we spoke with our daughter, she admitted that these girls had been making her life "hell," but she was terrified that things would escalate if the girls were approached to account for their behavior. There is not time enough to enumerate the litany of administrative indifference, internal "damage control," and administrative cowardly behavior which we encountered when we went through the "proper school channels” to try and seek relief for our daughter. It will suffice to say that in spite of our repeated, balanced (read: non hysterical) attempts to work in concert with the school administrators, the parents of the bullies were never called in to meet with any school administrators.

Both girls’ parents told the principal that "their daughters were not like that,” etc. When we insisted that the bullies needed to be dealt with by the school, the principal said that he would keep them in at recess and at lunch time for a week, but also suggested that perhaps our daughter was somehow overly sensitive, and that she needed to seek psychological counseling. We assured our daughter that the principal was "dealing with the bullies," so she got up the courage to return to school the next day. She missed the day following, and I was horrified to learn (from another parent) that the principal had let the bullies out again at recess, because our daughter wasn't there that day.

I snapped, and drove to the school and planted myself in the hallway outside the Principal's office. After weeks of trying to work within the system, (and years of laying the groundwork for a successful home/school relationship) the only thing which finally made any difference at all was when I stood outside the Principal's office, screaming at the top of my lungs, demanding that my child be protected (I had never before exhibited anything but polite, congenial behavior in all the years at this school).

We found out later that in the midst of all our daughter's turmoil, that the principal had chastised her for not "coming to him sooner,” and intimated that our daughter had brought this on herself somehow.

We spent a great deal of time on our knees pleading with the Lord to help us find a solution to this situation which would protect our daughter, but still leave room for her to feel that she had some control over her life. Ultimately, the "Mother Bear" scenario was the only way to get any protection for our daughter. Bullying, particularly with girls, doesn't always manifest itself with the "black eye:" it can take the form of insidious, creeping social rejection, undermining of confidence, unspoken but unmistakable (to the victim) threats to social safety, and often the evil and devastating eating away of a girl's sense of her physical acceptability ("you're fat,” “you wear loser clothes,” etc.). It is almost impossible for the victim to articulate a specific threat to their safety when the threat comes in the form of silent social rejection.  Even the friends of the victim can pick up the message that they could be "next” if they show compassion to the victim.

Joni, you were exactly right to tell Chris Lee to arm herself with information and be prepared to involve the police and the media, if necessary. She truly may be fighting for that child's life. Here in Canada, we have already lost some precious children's lives to bullying.  It should not be considered a "rite of passage" for the children who consider taking their own lives in order to escape the bullying. Satan truly has the upper hand if we allow children to destroy other children. There is a fine line between weathering the slings and arrows of adolescence, and being consumed by vicious and destructive forces which seek to destroy a child's desire to continue living. I hope that those who have not been through these experiences will not dismiss my comments as so much hyperbole. May they never have to walk a mile in our shoes.

Canadian Sister

What an ordeal for all of you. I don’t see how these bullies are any different from the terrorists we see on the news-- “strike first and strike hard” seems to be the only thing some of them understand. Here’s a former bishop who agrees:

You go "Tiger Mama." I know it is not the MOST proper attitude a Christian should have. We are supposed to be "meek" and "mild" and "acceptant" aren't we? Yeah, right, go tell that to Capt. Moroni, Helaman and Ammon. These leaders, and others, never enjoyed fighting, killing or hunting man. However, they did what was necessary to protect their people. Never aggressively, but rather defensively...

When my second daughter was in grade school she was bullied by another, much larger, girl. This abuse was manifested physically by choking or strangling until she turned blue when the girl would let go, push her down and then laugh. We noticed a change in her attitude. She was becoming more withdrawn, sleeping more, wanting to be alone more often and not talking to us. I was finally able to get her to talk to me about what was going on. I reminded her that we had taught her how to defend herself and wondered why she had not tried to. She stated that the students had been drilled about fighting and how there was "no excuse" for it. Well, this just plays right into the hands of an abuser. They usually don't care about breaking rules. So, I got down on my knees and we went over defensive moves she had been taught before.

The next time the bully came at her she got into her "stance" and stood at the ready. The bully stopped, took a long look at her and backed down and hasn't touched her since. The two never liked each other all through high school, but the bully never touched her again. My daughter had transformed herself into a non-victim. She was not going to just stand there and take it anymore. She was and still is a kind, gentle and caring person who confidently stands up for herself and others more often than she used to. Her father is very pleased with her and her decision to stand up for herself. -- God bless, your brother, in the Lord, Craig Mudge, Marysville, WA

Craig, you came away with the best possible outcome: you helped your daughter become a non-victim, and rescue herself with her own wits and skills. Glad you shared your story.

Another reader wrote with further suggestions:

Right on Joni!!

Your response was wonderful! As parents we often feel helpless to do something about the bullying our children endure. We need to realize that there is a great deal we can do. I liked your response because it showed that we should not stop pursuing justice just because one or two people ignored or downplayed the situation. Parents often give up at this point, when in reality they should become more firm and go up the authority ladder. Going to the school board meeting might be a good idea as well.

I loved your idea of bringing in the media, especially if you do end up having to press charges. A child can also be arrested for assault when physical harassment is involved. If you have doubts, don't be afraid to ask your local law enforcement.

Because there are a lot of schooling options in many areas, don't forget that you can threaten and perhaps really pull your child from a school. Schools are hurting for money and don't want to have students leave, taking available funds with them.

I would also advise her to push to have the school pay for the counseling the girl needs. It is their fault that the bullying went on as long as it did. It is their responsibility to correct the situation.

Unfortunately, in these types of situations, you usually have to be somewhat bearish (Or a tiger) because too many teachers, etc., downplay the seriousness of the situation and its effects. But, just as we should not allow our children to be bullied, we do not have to put up with intimidation or bullying ourselves. Take a spouse or a friend with you to your meetings or confrontations. Not only as moral support, but also as a witness.

Thanks again. Jolynn

Good ideas, Jolynn. People always perk up and listen when you hit ‘em in the pocketbook, don’t they?

Another reader simply wrote:

AMEN, TO ALL THE ABOVE. YOU ARE DEALING WITH A CHILD'S LIFE. IF YOU DON'T MAKE THAT BULLY ACCOUNTABLE, YOU WILL FEEL ACCOUNTABLE IF ANYTHING HAPPENS TO THAT CHILD.

I agree.  And I cannot express enough thanks to the next reader, whose son did commit suicide as a result of bullying. She has become an activist for children, and has some excellent “clip and save” information for all of us:

As one who deals with kids who are bullied and suicidal every day, I would like to commend you for your advice to Chris Lee. Rarely do I read proactive advice like yours. I lost a child to “bullycide” myself so I know how important it is to take bullying and self-esteem seriously.

The sad thing is, that many parents are afraid to act on their child’s bullying and they make excuses, not taking it seriously. After all, who would ever believe that their sweet child would ever take their life because of bullying, especially a sweet LDS child? I sure learned the hard way.

I’ve been working very hard in the last few weeks for an anti-bullying law in the State of Arizona. We got one in Washington last year – where I’m from. My son Jared, was born in Arizona so I thought it would be appropriate to start my anti-bullying law campaign there. Good laws can protect those children whose parents will choose to do nothing to stop their child’s bullying. You can go to "http://www.bullypolice.org/getting_a_law.html" to read about my trip.

Here’s information about stopping bullying. As you will see, my advice is very much the same. You did very good Joni! Wishing you well, Brenda High (Jared’s mom)

What Parents can do to Stop Bullying!

By Brenda High & Ken Kuczynski, President Power of One Foundation, Inc.

Give the school a reasonable amount of time to work out minor problems to your child's satisfaction and your satisfaction as a parent, no more than one school week. (Every day that a child is being bullied at school is like an eternity.)

In cases of a major harassment situation such as a physical or sexual assault, call the police immediately. These types of serious offenses must be handled by the police and entered on the abuser or perpetrator's police record or Juvenile Record. School Administrators can take some actions against the perpetrator(s) but they are not police officers.

Document everything! Put EVERYTHING in writing. Tape record statements, type them up and have witnesses sign the statements. Take pictures of injuries, places (buildings), people, etc.

"First, we cannot say enough about documentation. Getting the dates, times, locations, and names of not only the bullying incidents, but also whom you talked within the school system is very important. Write down any information that you feel will be important to reference later, especially any comments made by the principal, superintendent, teachers, etc.

"Second, do your homework. Obtain copies of your State, school district, and your child's school policies regarding bullying, harassment, and your child's right to a safe learning environment. Judging from the violent acts that have been written about, the schools and the districts are failing to follow established policies. BE PERSISTENT!

"Third, don't wait to do something. Act quickly at the first sign of trouble. Don't settle for "we'll look into it" answers. We trusted the system to fix the problem and it failed our daughter and us miserably."

Just a note here: Many times the kids will say to the parent, “Don’t tell anyone, it will get worse.” Well, it will get worse, tell or don’t tell, and it’s guaranteed not to get better if nothing is done at all. There are countless stories of life-threatening injuries bullied children and teens have suffered without the parent or school even knowing that bullying had been going on at all.

Write a letter to the Principal of the school. Write a letter to the Principal after each incident of harassment. (Keep a copy in your file)

Write letters to School Board Members. Write letters to Board members separately and after each incident of harassment. (Keep a copy in your file)

Write a letter to the Superintendent. Write a letter to the Superintendent after each incident of harassment. (Keep a copy in your file)

Go to School Board meeting and speak out. It's not just your child that you are thinking about, but all the other children who are harassed and have parents who won't, or don't know how, to speak for them.

Write multiple letters to your State Representatives (The State Senate and House Education Committee). Tell them what is happening in your school and how your Administrators are handling your child's case. Ask them to support State laws to protect children from bullies, students who are whistle blowers, give counselors to victims, and stronger laws to punish bullies and perpetrators of harassment. Write a letter to each member of the Committee separately and after each incident of harassment. (See the website to see if your laws, policies or codes are listed - If your State has a law, and only a few do, then don’t let your school districts ignore their responsibility to obey the law. Get a copy of their anti bullying policies and insist that they obey their own policies.)

Write a letter to the Editor of your local newspaper. Do not embarrass your child with details, but write instead about your school’s lack of response for harassed students in general.

Call a lawyer. If you have not been satisfied with the response you have received from School Administrators within a reasonable period of time, then hire an Attorney. If this is a case of a major harassment situation, such as a physical or sexual assault, call an Attorney within 24 hours. DO NOT let your school become your attorney! Schools do NOT have your child’s best interest in mind. They want to protect themselves from lawsuits.

"Fourth, don't be afraid to take legal action if necessary. There are assault laws that pertain to juvenile offenders. In our situation, we had a bomb placed in our mailbox that detonated. Don't wait. Tell the legal authorities right away. Chances are good that this will not be the first time the offending child's name has crossed their desks. With the proof you have collected, especially when there has been physical violence, obtain a restraining order.

"Fifth, don't be afraid to tell your story. The ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union), the press, influential people in your community including elected officials like school board members. Also, there is strength in numbers. Try to find out the names of other families within your child's school who are experiencing similar bullying and harassment issues. As a group, you can have even a stronger voice for change and action.

"Sixth, stay united as a family. Remember that you are not alone. There are a good number of us out there experiencing the same thing. Have a game plan in mind including removing your child from the school, home schooling, requesting that the school provide a tutor, etc. These are often hard decisions to make, but they may be the only options available as you work at resolving the problem.

"Be strong. Turn your anger and disgust into something positive. You owe it to yourself and your child's academic success and happiness."

Join the "Bullies" Group! Tell your stories and give your suggestions. This group is open to Parents, Teenagers, and Teachers... anyone who cares about "wounded" kids. Go to mailto:bullies-subscribe@smartgroups.com"

Bless you, Brenda. I wish I could hug you and thank you for making the world a safer place. You are giving the gift of life to many.

Here’s a letter that brings up some additional points to consider:

The bullying plea for advice sounds like a conversation that I recently had with another mother. I asked her how her son liked the same 5th grade class that he shared with my daughter and her reply was, "he hates it." I was a little shocked at the reply since my daughter is enjoying his class but I let her explain that her boy was being teased by other children in the class and, "that he'd rather die than go to school".  How's that for an opener? Well I talked with her for a little while about how bullies work and that a bully is nothing more than a coward wanting attention for their misdeeds. They get acceptance from their peers from the bullying they do and if they are made to feel stupid they will stop. The child MUST stand up to the bully and put them in their place in order to get them to stop. Usually a quick remark will work for them at their ages.

Children are ruled by fear. They are terribly afraid at their young ages of being made to look stupid. I recommended the bullied child (and parents) would benefit from being in counseling. The parents should pay very close attention to how they react in social situations.

ALSO I spoke with this mother about how a victim sometimes ENJOYS being the victim from the sympathy, and attention they receive. Let's not teach our children to receive attention by being a martyr. I have been guilty of this in my life and have learned that it's not the way to go.

I do not agree with bullying but in some cases the bully speaks the truth. Does your child dress strange or have bad hygiene? These are targets for bullies. Make sure you know as well as the child knows what is acceptable and what isn't.

I think the key is to know what is happening with your children every day. If they are being bullied or teased put the power with the child to overcome their own obstacles in life. We will not ALWAYS be there to protect them. When we are not with them they need to know how they can protect themselves both physically and emotionally.

Amanda, Eagle Mountain, Utah

And here’s encouragement for younger kids to diffuse a bully’s power in a less serious situation:

I was bullied when I was 12 and 13. Both my best friend and I were the targets. Our bully was just looking for someone to keep her in power, and after about one year of her taunting and pushing and generally empty scare tactics, we thought, "Hey! Why do we CARE about what she thinks? Why do we give her power to scare us and ruin our day?"  We decided that when she said something unkind we'd respond with a smile and say something like, "nice to see you today!" or "I love your sweater!" This wasn't a feeble attempt to establish a friendship. No, we were vengefully seeking to pull the plug on her power over us, and we were full of exuberance in our statements to her. She HATED it, and we LOVED pulling the rug out from under her. We always made sure to say goodbye to her at the end of the day. She realized she had no power over us and left us alone (in fact avoided us!) after only 3 days.

Yes, there will continue to be bullies as long as there are children who have low self-images. Put two of them together, and you get a bully-victim relationship. Build up your child, role-play about what to do when the situation happens again, and emphasize that it is the bully who is doing something wrong and socially inappropriate--not your child! Refuse to be a victim!

My heart goes out to any child suffering social rejection at such a crucial time of life. But I believe they CAN triumph over the situation and come out stronger for it.

Shelly Parcell,Orem, Utah

Thanks, Shelly. Changing how we define ourselves is a big step in establishing what kind of treatment we’ll stand for. When my daughter was in fourth grade, a girl threatened to have a cousin beat her up. I fired off an immediate letter of demand to the principal, and insisted she meet with the girl and her parents to explain that this is illegal, and not a minor matter. (I somehow knew the girl would say, “It was just a joke,” to which I urged the principal to say, “Then where’s the funny part?”)

Here’s what one young girl endured:

My daughter was bullied at her new school for 18 months when she was 11 years old. The bullying began from day one, inflicted by one girl the same age as her, but twice as big. It wasn’t just name-calling or comments, but physical violence too (pushing, slapping, pinching, kicking). My little daughter, who is such a kind and gentle girl, suffered so much. She was verbally, emotionally and physically bullied more than she (or I) could bear, and one day she said to me, “I might as well be dead.”

I involved the school from the outset, but our biggest problem was the fact that the bully was very crafty and knew when to strike-often at lunch times when no teachers were around, or at the end of school when reporting it to a teacher would have meant missing the school bus home. Her parents would not believe their daughter was a bully, even when faced with evidence of bruises their daughter had caused to my daughter. In fact the girl’s mother, father and older brother were all involved, and intimidated my daughter. I spent the whole of the first school year taking my daughter to the bus stop, simply to ensure she wasn’t bullied there by the girl, and her parents who waited there too. Almost every morning I had to push my daughter onto the school bus while she sobbed not to be made to go. That was heart breaking for me. She was so miserable. Many mornings she felt too ill to go to school, and I took her to the doctor who said she was suffering from anxiety.

The school was very slow to act, always looking for evidence, and when presented with evidence from witnesses, could not use it because these witnesses were my daughter’s friends! They did not want to act rashly as this bully supposedly had “rights”. If they were to suspend her from school without following the correct (but very slow) procedure, the bully’s parents could have taken legal action. I learned very early on that the victim has no rights whatsoever. Children are constantly being told not to suffer in silence, and to report bullying, but when my daughter did this she was not always met with favorable responses. Teachers would often take no notice, or think she was being over-sensitive.

My daughter and I prayed so hard for things to be resolved and to try to make sense of all this. We prayed for the bully too, and that was difficult. It was so hard to make her believe that “good triumphs over evil” because at the time it didn’t look that way to her. I taught her never to retaliate verbally or physically. What I really wanted to tell her was to give as good as she got, but that would have been wrong and was simply not in her nature. We tried many tactics to help her survive. We tried to laugh off this girl’s pathetic behavior. We tried to ignore her. We tried to feel sorry for her. We tried to understand that she was not happy at home, and had to take her anger out on someone. My daughter had really good friendships at Church, which helped so much. When she was with these girls, she could almost forget her troubles, and they were all very supportive. People told me to move my daughter away from the school, but I wouldn’t do it. We’d prayed for the right school for her, and it wasn’t easy to get into this particular school. I didn’t see why the victim should be made to move and have to start afresh at a new school. My feeling was that if anyone should move school, it should be the bully.

After a year of all this, I met with the bully’s mother one day to show her a bruise her daughter had caused on my daughter’s arm. She wouldn’t even look and just said there was no evidence. I vowed then that I needed to take further action and that I would fight to have this bully removed from my daughter’s class. Throughout the 18 months, we kept a diary of every event, however small it seemed to an outsider. I phoned the school many times to report incidents. I wrote letters. I took the matter further, and higher. I involved everyone I could think of who would be able to help my daughter, and see justice done. Eventually I decided that if my daughter were physically attacked one more time, I would involve the police. I made the school aware of this fact too. Thankfully it never came to that, because after 18 long months the school finally believed that my daughter was the victim and acted in her favor for once, and moved the bully to another class.

Looking back on it, I can see that my daughter came through this a much stronger person, and has more confidence now. However, it has been almost impossible to forgive and forget, particularly as this girl still sees her as some kind of enemy, for whatever reason. It’s all water under the bridge, it’s all in the past now, and there have been no incidents for the last 18 months since the bully was moved. I am ever vigilant though, because they are on the same school bus again this year, and this bully has begun to tell others on the bus that she was moved to a different class because there’d been some trouble and she got the blame for it. She has told people it was my daughter who caused the trouble. I am taking mental notes, and if anything happens again, I will act a lot quicker this time, because I am wiser now. I would say to Chris, take it all the way. Involve the school, go to the top, and if that doesn’t work, take legal action, call the police. The school will soon do something about it when faced with that. You must do everything to ensure your daughter’s happiness.

I hope that the situation is soon resolved, in your daughter’s favor. It is so hard to see a child suffer for so long and to be so miserable. I thought I would never see my daughter smile again or hear her laugh. Things will work out in the end.

Jo, England

This dad sympathizes as one who has been there:

I am now a happy, well-adjusted man of almost 30, with 5 children and a fantastic wife. I was bullied, primarily emotionally, but sometimes physically, when I was young. This happened throughout all of my school years, from grade school through about 10th grade or so. It reached its peak between the 6th and 9th grades. I experienced the gamut of taunting about myself, my family, my physical attributes, my clothing, etc. Today, had this gone on and I were evaluated by a counselor, I would have been diagnosed as severely depressed, and likely would have been recommended for at least therapy, and almost certainly some of those infamous prescription anti-depressants. As it went, however, I received neither, and was left to my own devices.

It was a terrible time for me. I was a year younger than almost everyone else (I had skipped a grade), and I come from a family of "late bloomers," so I was very small in stature in comparison to everyone else, guys and girls alike, with few exceptions. Also stacked up against me was a native social awkwardness. I said the wrong things without thinking on a daily basis, fueling a fire that was already too hot.

I was given what might have been good advice, but did not help my particular situation. I was advised to "not let them get to me," to be like, "a tough nut that none of their teasing could penetrate," and to "ignore them and eventually they'll go away." Statistically speaking, though, when you have a class of 30, and 20 to 25 of them are involved in mistreating you, over time you begin to wonder if there isn't something wrong with you, because so many others seem to find so much to blab about. The advice I was given didn't help me, and didn't stop them, but it was all I had. I did often wonder what was wrong with me that made everyone "hate" me.

As I continued to grow, and learn, I began to recognize patterns. I learned that when a bully mistreats a person, or when a whole class teases someone, they are almost certainly addressing an insecurity about something in themselves. They also often display a "herd" or a "gang" mentality. In order to be a part of the herd or gang, they must all do the same things. Hence, a whole class can mistreat a single student, but spurred on by one or a few individuals. Having the whole lot gang up on you is both terrifying and demoralizing. The biggest revelation, however, didn't come until years after I had my patriarchal blessing, which I received only 2 weeks before entering the MTC.

While recounting some of my personal history to my wife, and having shared some of the counsel and blessings of my patriarchal blessing, she pointed something out that had never occurred to me before, and the spirit confirmed it: Because of things I have to do in this life, a mission to fulfill, I was a target in my youth. The adversary wins a major battle every time one of our "youth of the noble birthright" slips into despair, and forgets who they are, and that they are needed by our Heavenly Father. It is bad enough that they lose themselves, even if only for a time, but it sometimes becomes bad enough that these tormented souls take their own lives, thinking there is no other escape from the onslaught. The adversary tried to ruin me, but I was blessed to not only survive, but to triumph in the end. I am stronger for having endured these things.

I now have compassion for those who experience similar circumstances in a way I could never have been before. I cried and remarked bitterly to many, in those darker times, "You DON'T understand what I'm going through." For those out there experiencing these things today, I pray that you can find someone who does understand, as I do. I know that it would have lightened my load immeasurably had I felt like even a single soul around me really did understand. Because of my youth, and the difficulties I faced, I was not able to realize that my Savior had felt my pain, and did understand what I was going through. I do now, and I hope that those in or near despair can reach out and find a hand, but know that if you can't, that there is always one person who will be there for you, and He is our Savior.

I’m so glad you wrote. Your letter might give hope to children who feel outcast and alone. And you’re right; just telling kids to ignore abuse is not the solution. Several readers recommended pulling kids out of school entirely:

Boy can we relate to what this dear sister is going through. My oldest daughter was harassed in high school by two boys, constantly for a period of 6 months. When she finally broke down and told us what was going on, the mamma bear came out in me. I contacted both sets of parents and went over and spoke to them. My daughter was already fragile in her self esteem, she had already tried suicide a couple of years earlier and I was not going to let a couple of punks do it to her again.

The first set of parents was great when I explained what was going on. They even had me talk to their son. He quickly repented, apologized to my daughter and they became friends. The second set was a totally different outcome. The parents’ attitude was that "boys will be boys" and MY daughter just needed to toughen up!!! The bullying did stop for her by the second boy only because as I left I told the parents that if it didn't I was going to the principal next. They said it would be her word against his. I told them she has witnesses who will verify her side.

My middle daughter was also bullied in elementary school in this same town. It stopped after I talked to the teacher and principal. But then we moved the following year and in her new middle school she was bullied even worse. Going to the school only made it worse for her. She is the sweetest person and would never hurt another, is always looking out for those mistreated to give them comfort. Well, we decided to pull her out and home school her in an atmosphere of love and caring where she could mature and develop at her own pace.

Joni, your advice is good and yes we need to be Mamma Bears for our kids! If we're not, who will be? It's been over 7 years since these two daughters were bullied, but they still remember the feelings, both bad and good (knowing that we would stick up for them when they couldn't themselves).

You’re not the only one who advocates home schooling, to ensure a child’s safety. Read on:

Well, I suppose that parental intervention works in extreme cases. But, what happens when other bullies come along and mommy isn't there? How do any of us learn to deal with unpleasant people? Isn't that part of what getting educated is all about? Don't we all need to learn how to handle people? Options:

1- Avoidance. Not always feasible

2- Become a personal change agent. Explain to the daughter that the bully is a bully because he doesn't feel good about himself. He can only look good if someone else is lower than him. If they are not lower, then he will make something up to make them feel that way. Only by being "above" or "better" than someone else can he feel good about himself. He needs help. What would happen if the daughter said to him "(Name), when you say mean things to me, it is hurtful." END OF CONVERSATION. Don't add to it. Don't "counter accuse." Just leave it alone. He may or he may not respond. If he responds, then teach her to listen well at what he means by what he says.

If it happens again, "(Name), it is difficult for me to be nice to you and be your friend when you do hurtful things." END OF CONVERSATION. Don't get into counter accusations.

If it happens a third time, then "(Name), you are bigger than me, if you insist on being a bully, then I will find someone who is bigger than you."

If there is any physical violence of the bully toward her, then the adult authority figures must intervene. If they don't, then the parent (and some witnesses if possible) should go to the principal and explain that his school is not providing a safe learning environment for the students and that you expect him to take immediate action. A safe learning environment is one of the main tasks in his job description.

Home schooling has its advantages, doesn't it?

Another reader agrees:

The mother bear instinct in us all to protect our children is strong. It has sadly been dulled by our culture in many ways. Many of us assume that if a child is being bullied at school our only recourse is to work with the school to make it stop. There is another way. Some may think it drastic, but it is effective. Take the child out of school...NOW...and homeschool them. It is legal in all 50 states. (Some state education people will tell you otherwise, but they are wrong) If you were in a work environment with some mean, bullying co-workers, and no one in management would do anything about it, you would find other employment. If you had an acquaintance who bullies, you would severely limit contact with that person. Why does a child, who has less experience than you, have to put up with such treatment on a daily basis? Homeschooling can be a frightening venture to contemplate, but with study and prayer, it is wonderful. We had many worries and questions before starting this adventure 14 years ago, but none of those beginning questions were real concerns.

During the time of pulling my child out of school, I would pursue those recommendations that you listed, Joni. My only difference would be after contacting police and the school district leaders, would be the removal of my child from the premises, permanently. It wouldn't be said in an "if-then" way. It would be presented thus: "I have taken this action. No matter the outcome, my child will not set foot in your facility again."  With homeschooling, if you have contact with children who bully, you can make the choice not to be around them again. You can find outlets for your child's interests and help them to get back those feelings of accomplishment they have lost. If it was really bad at school, it will take a long time to completely heal, but it can be done. It is very difficult to do when everyday you are subjected to the same place and people who hurt you for months or years on end.

Barbara Ritter, VA

You make some excellent points, Barbara. If we are not advocates for our children, who will be? Youngsters can’t always do it themselves. Other suggestions were to give the girl a cell phone, and to get familiar with the laws in your area, so you can better help not just your own kid, but anyone you’re aware of who’s being bullied.

This dad had several options in dealing with a bully (in Seminary), and chose to resolve it this way:

I think we all ought to get better acquainted with "Assault and Battery". Any time that a bully creates a sense of fear of personal harm in some one else, that is called "Assault".  Actually causing injury to another is called "Battery".  These are both crimes that the police are interested in prosecuting.  Most cases of "bullying" are technically criminal.

My son was involved in a simple incident at Seminary that we were able to resolve very peaceably. In an early morning seminary class ( in a church building) my son, trying to help the substitute teacher, kept telling the student in front of him to stop leaning his chair back (a class no-no). After the umpteenth time of telling, nudging, etc. my son kicked at the base of the guy's chair in front of him (something I scolded him for when I began to find out the story). The guy in front of him got out of his chair, folded it and turned around and beat my son with it several times (yes, in Seminary class).

Since my son was a football player, I didn't think any thing of the couple of small bruises that showed up a day of two later. My wife and I only found out about the incident, a week or so later from the mother of one of his classmates who was in our ward.

I asked around to get the details and then called the police to see if what had happened might constitute a criminal offense. They concluded that it would and asked if I wanted to file a report at that time. I said, "Not yet, but maybe later." Then I called the school (we had early morning seminary, across the street from the school) and although they were very interested, they couldn’t actually do anything, because it had not transpired on school property. They were very interested in any thing that did transpire on school property and pledged that they would act immediately if informed of such a situation.

Then I called the Seminary principal and let him know what had happened, who was involved, and that I was contemplating filing an "assault and battery" report with the police. He asked if I was intent on filing "no matter what," and I told him I was more interested in resolving the matter peaceably, but that I was aware of my son's rights. He thanked me and said he would get right to it. A couple of days later our son told us that this guy had apologized. I asked if his apology was sufficient and he concurred. I called the Seminary principal and thanked him for his efforts, and told him that all appeared to be fine.

-- Bob Frost

We are naive if we think no LDS kid would mistreat another, aren‘t we? It does happen. I’m glad you persisted until the case was resolved. We all need to talk with our kids about their school life, their friends, etc., and remind them not to be bullies, as well. It’s easy to get pressured into a cruelty mode by peers, and we think because the victim endures it silently, or even jokingly says he doesn’t care, that we are doing no real harm. Kids need to know how others perceive teasing and rejection, and a reminder that they would surely not wish to be responsible for another child’s misery, depression, or even suicide. Conclusion for kids: If you’re being mean to others, stop. If others are being mean to you, stop them.

See you next week, Joni

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About the Author:

I have four hilarious children and an even more hilarious husband, Bob, whose comments frequently work their way into my published material (hey, somebody should have the presence to make a profit here).

I’ve served as Ward Relief Society president, first counselor in a Stake Relief Society presidency, seminary teacher, and a zillion other callings that, if added properly, will tell you I’m 46. I have a regional calling at present, working with the media. I am also blessed to be one of the writers for the Mormon Tabernacle Choir’s “Music and the Spoken Word.”

If you’re familiar with my LDS comedy novels (“As the Ward Turns,” etc.) then you’ve probably figured out that I was raised on a steady diet of sugar and humor. But I don’t fault my parents-- it was all I would eat.

I hosted a TV talk show in Los Angeles, and together Bob and I hosted a syndicated TV family show. (Bob’s background is a lot more interesting-- he’s a former game show host, and has worked for the big networks, anchored TV news, and has a new book out about activities to do with your kids, called “Weekend Dad.”)

But back to me. If I have any spare time at all, I make up recipes and win contests with them. It’s true, and nobody is more amazed than I. Here’s what I do: I think up a crazy recipe, mail it in, and then, if it wins, I cook it. All I know is that it seems to be working and we’ve won trips to France, Hawaii, Florida, New York, and now a cruise to the Caribbean. You can’t attend 46 years of ward dinners and not learn something.

Our youngest, Nicole, is our only daughter, and I recently wrote about her medical challenges in the Feb. 1 issue of Woman’s Day. Oh, that’s another thing-- I frequently write for various national women’s magazines. Another recent piece of mine was in Family Circle last summer, about my racing the family mini-van at the local speedway. (I am nothing if not a cool Mormon mama). I have no idea how many books I’ve written, but I’ve sold fourteen.

My medication of choice is the gospel. I would be lost without it, and I love it with every temple-going, Institute-attending fiber of my being. The Lord is my greatest friend, my Savior in this life and the next. I wish every person I meet would join the church, and, frankly, it ticks me off a little bit when they don’t. But, like all women, I try not to take it personally. Onward and upward, Sisters. Be sure to wear thick socks-- the refiner’s fire is definitely hot.

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